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carnegiehalllyricsop
07-01-2009, 07:08 AM
Hi, Guys:

It has been a while and I have been extremely busy, but it is great to be back. I have my work cut out for me, re-enacting because there are a select group of men who feel that they are the only ones who can fight on a battlefield. I say that it isn't so, yes women did fight on the battlefield during the civil war. Some were were soldiers, spies, doctors and nurses for both the confederacy and the union.

I portray a woman named Pauline Cushman who was a spy for the union
army at civil war re-enactments. During one of her missions while she was stationed behind confederate lines at Shelbyville Tennesse of 1863. Pauline put on a confederate officers uniform and gained secrets from the confederates for the union, she was one smart woman because she never got caught doing so.

I recently joined what I thought was a debate forum for real re-enactors who are suposed to be there to help out other re-enactors and not argue or try to change history to suit their view points which is what these individuals calling themselves re-enactors have been trying to do by using faulty logic to argue trying to claim that Pauline never wore a confederate officers uniform behind confederate lines during her stay/mission at shelbyville,TN in 1863.

Eventhough there is documented evidence proving that she did, even after presenting this documented evidence to these backwoods knuckle draggers who still haven't learned how to stand up right yet, who are still using faulty logic to argue to try to change history to suit their viewpoints about women not being allowed on a civil war battlefield, even though these women fought valiantly, did the same job as a man and took more guff and flack then men did.

I have done hours and hours of painstaking, historically accurate research on the life of Pauline Cushman-union spy. I'm also friends with the author who wrote a book on Pauline Cushman, called: Pauline Cushman-Spy of the Cumberland and who also spent thirteen years, doing years of painstaking historical research on her in order to write the above mentioned book and who I currently am and have been getting alot of my historical research information on Pauline from.

Several of the other debators of this group whom I belonged to until just recently,who are males with a backwoods additude toward women mustering into the ranks and whom have stood on their knuckle dragging soap boxes screaming about how women should only be wearing dresses at the civil war re-enactments and not be in ranks. To these men and only to these men, I say kiss my confederate/union officers uniform and slouch hat, thank god that there are many men who don't share these few kinuckle dragging, yocale males opinions.

I'm very fortunate because the civil war regiment that I'm a member of doesn't share the same viewpoint as these immature, arguementative, rude males whom I now have realized have been pretending to be re-enactor but who really aren't. Sorry, everyone I just needed to vent, I knew that I could on this forum. Fortunately, these re-enactors are few and far between at re-enactments and with any luck it will stay that way.

My civil war regiment is a great group of people who don't mind having women portray soldiers and muster into their ranks, which I will proudly do both as Pauline Cushman/union spy/confederate officer-non discript and Jennie Hodger aka Private Albert Cashier union soldier. Any civil war soldier who doesn't like this can kiss my confederate slouch hat and my union kepi.


These argumentative males with a ramrod up their backs, bullhead, stubborn, make a woman want to run away screaming and never come back wonder why women run away in terror from them and why they chase off other re-enactors at re-enactments like they have me. No offense to men everywhere but these bunch of male swamphuggers couldn't figure out how to carefully clean the wax out of their ears with their tri-cornered bayonets without causing what's left of their puny midget sized brains to leak out of the other end, let alone find accurate historical facts on a historical figure that they have never studied, nor have attempted to portray for obvious reasons.

I have come to the conclusion that the Civil War males' debators group which I was formly affliated with.Whom I wish to have nothing further to do with because of their bragging, sexist ignorant additude toward women in the ranks in general has lead me to believe that none of the males in this group know their head from a sheep arse when it comes to history on the civil war and especially about Pauline Cushman's career as a union spy. I also believe this group of want to be males aren't really re-enactors but a bunch of pimply faced geeks who have little to no knowledge of history and who should leave the civil war re-enacting and civil war debates to people like myself who like to indugle in conversation and not nitpicking rediculous arguements and who aren't trying to change history to suit their point of view.

brilliant!MacLeod
07-01-2009, 02:07 PM
Amen to that!!!
I think this kind of men is to be found in ANY country and ANY historical group.
Donīt take it too personal,these guys are not worth it!
Just donīt argue with them,they will never learn anything and will never listen to reasonable arguments.
The only thing we can really do is teach our sons differently(unfortunately I donīt have a son to teach women are equal but I keep telling every young male in my reach)!:D

Coolwater
07-01-2009, 03:58 PM
Welcome back, carneigiehall. Good to see you again. :)

Seems to me that you might want to take a page out of Pauline's book and try fooling the rascals. When you go to the reenactments (all that wool! I don't know why you all don't die of the heat!), go in uniform and be the most convincing man you can be. Pauline wouldn't have been successful if she hadn't been able to pass as a man, or at least as a young boy.

I think it would be the best fun to dress up as a Reb, have dinner with the Butternuts, and then go back to your home regiment and tell them what the Rebs had to say. The next day you all could make the Yankee trash talk pretty darn personal! :D It would prove your point if you could tell the website idjits what you did, especially if you could post photos of yourself as a sideburned Confederate male and as a feminine corseted lady.

Mind you, if your dinner companions catch you, they'll certainly insult you for being a female in uniform. Think of that as the penalty for having failed at your mission. Pauline might have been beaten or raped if she'd been caught, or even hanged, so you'd be getting off lightly!

I'm too curvy to pass. If I were to do reenactment, I'd want to play Barbara Fritchie. If you have to wear wool and a corset, it's better to play someone who leans out a window and waves a flag instead of marching around in the heat. "Shoot if you must, this old gray head, But spare your country's flag!" she said.

And spare me death by itching, sweaty wool!

Coolwater
07-01-2009, 04:00 PM
Have you posted pictures of Pauline in uniform and in lady clothes? Was she homely?

Lt.Mac
07-02-2009, 05:26 AM
next time just remind those bullheaded bags of wind that in reality there were hundreds of woman who disguised themselves as men and actually fought in the civil war and less than 10 were actually caught.;)

Sam
07-05-2009, 02:36 PM
WELCOME BACK CARNEGIE!!
I've missed you.;)
Looks like you've been busy doing something really interesting.
:rolleyes: MEN!! Can't live with'em. Can't shoot'em.
:eek: OH WAIT!! YES YOU CAN!! AS LONG AS YOU USE A PROP!!:p

Coolwater
07-06-2009, 02:38 AM
Or a camera. That seems to work pretty well around here. ;)

Sam
07-09-2009, 12:25 PM
:p:D:p