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Reta K
06-08-2007, 09:41 PM
Until about 6 weeks ago, I thought she was simply annoying: a rich, spoiled, narsistic, mental midget.

However, after she was sent to jail primarily for traffic violations, I began to feel some sympathy for her. After the media hysteria of today, I have come to believe that she has become a living Barbie doll having her limbs being ripped off. First of all, by the legal and personal advisors who failed to reign her in after her first traffic ticket. Her 45 jail term, to me, was excessive. That is when the tug-of-war by her advisers, the sheriff, the judge, the jail personnel, her doctors began. All of this was magnified by the 24/7 'news' coverage.

I do believe that she is sick. She has very openly courted the cameras, but no one deserves to be so badly served by the 'adults' in her life. She appears to have the emotional maturity of a 5 year old. Like a child, she cannot cope when her charmed life suddenly gets turned inside out and she is forced to grow up and take the consequences of her own actions.

I sincerely hope that during the next 45 days she gets the medical and emotional help that she needs. I hope she can find the strength to come out of this ordeal a more mature person. She definitely needs all the prayers she can get.

Thanks for letting me rant.

Sam
06-09-2007, 05:07 AM
Hi Reta,
I really respect your opinion and the reasoning behind it. However I totally disagree. Being wealthy and spoiled should not put anyone above the law. Miss Hilton made a choice to drive drunk. Not once but repeatedly. When driving drunk your car is as dangerous as a loaded gun with the safety off traveling down the highway waiting to take someones life and destroy countless lives in the process. I have no sympathy for Miss Hilton. I lost my step-mother and almost lost my Father because of a drunk driver. The best punishment for Miss Hilton would be to have to ride along with EMT's as they go to wrecks caused by drunk drivers. If she had to wade through mangled body parts and brain matter she might realize what she is doing. She could have easily had someone drive her to parties but she chose not to. Feel bad for her illness? NO WAY!! The jails and prisons are full of inmates who are sick ,disabled, and even dying so why should she get special treatment? Because she has a rash. That's enough to give me a rash. Miss Hilton may act like a child but she is an adult and responsible for her own actions. I do agree that the people around her did a pitiful job in her upbringing but like I said she makes her own decisions. I do think the media carries all of this too far. I really wish I could turn on my TV and NOT hear about it. Don't worry too much though cause like those who have gone before her she will just become more rich and more famous. I'm sure someone is already penning a book about it and the movie rights are in negotiation.:D

Cara et Pax
06-09-2007, 06:49 AM
I do respect both of your opinions on Paris Hilton.I think that she should serve her jail time to serve justice in this case.She violated the law in dangerous to others ways several times.She comes across as a very immature person who seeks the limelight all the time.In my own cynical view,this whole thing may be just what she wants to get her MORE publicity.She needs to take responsibilty for her actions and not hide behind her family money.

MagicPrincess
06-09-2007, 07:15 AM
I completely agree with those who have replied. I have no sympathy for someone who drives drunk, and then AFTER her license is taken away and was ORDERED by the judge to no longer drive, she did it anyway. She knew what she was doing and counted on her money to get her out of it. She should serve the time that any of would get in that same situation.

Although I must admit that I completely understand special conditions as far as facilities goes. Due to who she is, her safety needs to be in consideration, but I'm sure her lawyers took care of that. LOL

scooby
06-09-2007, 12:49 PM
If you cant do the time - dont do the crime - besides think of the money she will save while she's in there, she can go on one helluva spending spree when she comes out and she can forget all about it!

But I agree I hope she does get some help while she's in there otherwise she wont learn a thing from the experience and history has a habit of repeating itself.

hlndr
06-10-2007, 09:24 AM
Maybe county jails are run differently county to county but in the county I live in it wouldn't matter what kind of medical or mental problem a prisoner has. They would still do their time behind bars. Riverside County also doesn't give its prisoners a choice of facility to do their time in.

MissDonnie
06-11-2007, 02:09 AM
Part of me feels sorry for her, a small part. She was brought up having everything handed to her. Her Mother and Father made her what she is....spoiled.

But she is an adult, and needs to start acting like one. Being in jail won't kill her....after all she is getting special care other prisoniers are not getting. Of course she is scared who wouldn't be.....but then when we do something without thinking of the damage we could cause, we need to pay for it.

Maybe, just maybe this will help turn her around. We can really do without hearing more of her problems.....there are bigger problems in the world then Paris Hilton.

Donnie:confused:

hlndr
06-11-2007, 04:02 AM
Amen to that!!!!

CaDonna
06-12-2007, 07:07 AM
I think the problem I have with her is that she hasn't taken responsibilty for her actions. There is a young "up and coming" actor who was on the TV series Prison Break. His name is Lance Garrison. His future doesn't look quite so bright anymore. He was involved in an accident under the influence with minors in the car and someone was killed in the accident. He has taken the responsibilty of his actions from the very beginning. He has been charged with vehicular manslaughter and has plead no contest. He is awaiting sentencing. Now he isn't rich, but some what in the "limelight".

What a contrast between the two! Yes his penalty should be larger but he has never shied away from any of it. And just maybe hers and her retainers attitude is what got her the 45 days.

Peace........Donna

Yollie
06-12-2007, 12:50 PM
I think her constant search for attention is because she is realising that she has a bigger problem and simply don't know how to deal with it or even what it is. I do believe she has a problem. I do think jail is the right thing for her.
maybe a good shrink would help too.

All in all I believe that this has happened to her, so she can open her eyes and she on what a self destructing path she has chosen for herself and maybe she will turn her life around.

One can only hope......:)

korat
06-12-2007, 03:08 PM
I agree with all of you. I don't like judging people, period, let alone judging people I don't personally know, but regardless of who she is, she's better off learning a few lessons about accountability BEFORE she kills someone.

Another thing, in regards to the media, there are so many who thrive on media attention when they are first becoming popular, or want to become popular...but then, when they finally get what they wanted, and they have their every move covered by the media, suddenly the people who made them popular are the bad guys. I know they (media) take a lot of heat and sometime, there's no question that they're going too far. We all know that. But these little prima dona's need to learn not to bite the hands that feed them, because ten years from now when they are "has-beens" they'll be crying for the press to follow them around as much then, as they're bitching about having too much of it now. AND, if they don't want to be followed and photographed all the time, let them tone down their lifestyles a bit. Out of sight, out of mind, as they say.

I'd have two simple things to say to her. 1) Get over yourself, and 2: GROW UP, for God's sake.

Sam
06-14-2007, 03:56 PM
I think the really sad part is that she hasn't learned anything from all of this and she and her family are still trying to manipulate the media. I also find it amusing that the media attention she got in the first place came back to bite her which is the reason she didn't get away with the house arrest deal.

ena
06-14-2007, 04:27 PM
I think well I heard the medical problem was that she didn't eat or drink from the time she got in their so she didn't need to use the toilet as she was scared that the gards would take photos of her on it and sell them to the press. I agree that she should be in there for what she has done but she obveously got problems for her mind to think of that either that or she is smarter than we think and thougth of a great plane to get out. What worse she might of been right.

korat
06-14-2007, 07:33 PM
She probably was right. Again, the lesson for her, "Be careful what you wish for." After her porn video was released a long time ago, I don't really think anyone would be all that intrigued to see her sitting on the throne. She's one of those things that just gets boring really fast. Does anyone know why she's famous in the first place, other than she is one of the Hiltons? Or is that the main reason? I'm I looking too deep? lol.

pepeperfume
06-14-2007, 08:24 PM
Judgemental or not--I think she is very silly!
I think she's an alcoholic, and that's her so called medical problem....
And it would be nice if she took all the publicity that follows her and does what Brad Pitt did---go to where the attention can get focused on people who don't have that luxury.

It is sad when you see an adult with all the privileges she has had--behave the way she does--it's time for someone to grow up or simply go away!

Surf Girl
06-14-2007, 11:11 PM
I agree with those that say Paris should do the time. Driving drunk, repeatedly, is very serious and it seems like some of the rich and famous do not take it seriously. Paris is not the only one. I just don't understand that with all that money you can't get a limo to drive you or call a cab. Please!:confused: I just wish everyone no matter who you are will drink responsibly.

Surf Girl
06-14-2007, 11:16 PM
Oh also, maybe she isn't eating because she is afraid of pictures being taken of her on the jon, but I bet its because they are feeding her carbs and she's afraid she'll gain a pound. No grilled sea bass on the menu in there. :D

grace
06-14-2007, 11:17 PM
She probably was right. Again, the lesson for her, "Be careful what you wish for." After her porn video was released a long time ago, I don't really think anyone would be all that intrigued to see her sitting on the throne. She's one of those things that just gets boring really fast. Does anyone know why she's famous in the first place, other than she is one of the Hiltons? Or is that the main reason? I'm I looking too deep? lol.

From recent interviews and a book called "House of Hilton" that came out before this recent drama, her mother Kathy Hilton had always aspired to be rich and famous and while Kathy married into the rich Hilton family, fame was not be for her so she groomed her two girls to be 'famous'. They were encouraged at early ages to go THE nightclubs to be 'seen', she even said when Paris was still a baby, that Paris would be the next Marilyn Monroe.


This is from an article written last year by the biographer:

Oppenheimer added: "Her mother, Kathy, put her in make-up and allowed her into nightclubs from a very young age.

"I feel sorry for her because in a way she had no chance to do anything else but live the dreams her grandmother and her mother had for themselves.

"My goal in doing this book was to figure out how she became who she is.


http://www.azcentral.com/ent/celeb/articles/1107kathyhilton-CR.html

korat
06-15-2007, 12:35 AM
Thanks for the input, Grace. That's...well, not interesting, per se, but it does explain a lot, doesn't it?

Sam
06-15-2007, 08:04 AM
It's my philosophy that one can blame ones parent for their childhood experiences but once you hit age 18 no matter who you are you have been exposed to the world enough to make your own decisions about what is right and wrong and what is acceptable behavior and what isn't. She is no longer a child. She admitted in a phone interview with Barbara Walters that being dumb was just an act.

korat
06-15-2007, 09:48 AM
Excellent point, Cocoknight. :)

StephyC
06-15-2007, 04:18 PM
Personally I think Paris deserves everything she gets and should have been locked up for even longer as many have for the same offence here in the UK.
Getting behind the wheel of a car when you know you have been drinking is the same as being armed and dangerous. As someone else said Paris is in the fortunate position where she could have employed somone to drive her if she wanted to drink.
I don't give a fig for the "poor little rich girl" act either. Even if her mother did force fame on her Paris is all grown-up now and could easily step out of the limelight if she chose to. So Oh dear they might take pictures of her she doesn't like while she is in prison? Tough I say, she is only there through her own fault.
If you court media attention to simply become famous for being famous then you have to take the rough with the smooth. Personally I can't stand this modern fashion for people becoming celebrities when they have done nothing to deserve it. Its the same with all the people who are achieving fame through those dreadful "Reality TV" shows.
Leave the fame for those with talent who actually work hard for years to aquire it.
As for Paris they can lock her up and throw away the key for all I care.

Hilandlas
06-15-2007, 05:27 PM
I agree with those of you who said that she needs to pay for her crime(s). I also agree that she should have to ride with an EMT to at least one emergency site where the accident was caused by a drunk driver. At this time of year there are too many of those where people were killed by a DD. What would have happened if she had, indeed, killed someone with her reckless actions? Would she have been allowed to just walk away?

It would be great if we could have a few days of news without Paris.

Teresa

Lt.Mac
06-16-2007, 03:13 AM
Her celebrity status should make no difference in her punishment- period-
the law is the law- there's plenty of celebs who have taken thier medicine like the average citizen she needs to do the same.

Sam
06-16-2007, 05:19 AM
I guess GMTA!!! I personally would like five minutes alone with her to tell her just how serious her offences were. To be able to describe to her what myself and my family had to go through. I would share it with all of you but many could not handle the horrific details. I am a person who can stomach a lot of stuff but even I have nightmares reliving that sequence of events. To her she was just out having a good time and nobody got hurt. But what if they had? What if someone else had been there at the time? She certainly had no idea whether or not someone would get in her path. I respect the man that AP is on many levels for many reasons. I think one of the things that tops the list is the way he handles his press coverage. He doesn't use negativity to gain media attention. He keeps the attention focused on his work and the positive things in life. I realize the man isn't perfect after all he is only human. (Although there are rumors he's immortal.LOL) But like I said he handles his business in a dignified and respectable manor and for that he deserves and has the respect of those around him. So when Paris and the others have faded away he will still be standing.:D

appeace
06-16-2007, 07:31 PM
I absolutely agree with you cocoknight.
I only wish some mature adult could have been a positive influence in her life. Me thinks much of her reported "illness" was the fact that she discovered that, once the paparazzi, lights, cameras, and glitz were gone, there was nothing left of her.
Paris has no sense of herself because she has never done or accomplished any good thing in her life. She is a puppet made famous or infamous by the media. Although she has at her disposal more means than nearly anyone else in this country, yet it probably has never occurred to her to make this world a better place or to help others less fortunate. Therefore, she knows in her heart that the minute the cameras are turned off she will be forgotten except as a laughing stock, and I believe, that realization is what she came face-to-face with in the jail cell.
Although I do believe that her sentence was excessive and unfairly applied, once her lawyer screwed up by not getting an appeal and her sentence was handed down, she should have accepted it with dignity and done all she could to make this a positive learning experience. Perhaps learning all she could about drunk driving statistics then using that knowledge coupled with her jail experience and "fame" to talk to elementary kiddos about the harmful risks of driving and drinking. You think those young kiddos dont know who Paris is??? Think again! What a positive influence she could have been and then, she would have the opportunity to build a lasting, positive sense and image of herself so that when the cameras are gone, there is still a strong Paris.

Sam
06-17-2007, 09:01 AM
APPEACE, I would agree with you about Paris' ability to learn from her mistakes and become a spokes person against drunk driving if it were something she felt passionate in her heart about but at this point I think it would only be a fascade much like her claim to have suddenly found God within the first 24 hours of her incarceration. I used to tell my kids that if they were going to lie to me they better make darn sure that I believe them because the reprocussions of that lie could be greater than the offense itself. And in her case neither I nor most people I know would believe it and we would only be further offput by the situation. I don't think her sentence was too stiff. Here she would have recieved a minimum of one year in prison ,been fined and lost her drivers license permanently. She would also have been to go to a DUI school where she would have to see graphic images of the effects of DUI!! But then where I live the vice president "accidentally" shoots his friend while hunting and not only gets away with it but the press doesn't even get wind of it until the man is beginning to get better. If that had been your average person here they would have gotten time for that accident. I think the bottom line is that Paris got caught at a time when people are fed up with preferential treatment for the priviledged few.

appeace
06-18-2007, 03:39 AM
I would agree with you on all points except for the fact that the "justice" meaded out to Paris was not meaded out to Mel Gibson, Hallie Berry, Vivica A. Fox, nor any other "Hollywood" type in my recent memory. Also, I have never heard of anyone serving time for driving on a suspended license, which was the charge for which she was arrested. However, if more folks had to do time for that offense, perhaps there would be fewer unlicensed drivers on the road???
Therefore, Im not trying to blunt outrage nor excuse Paris in any way, shape or form, only pointing out that justice should be applied fairly to all.
I do wish Texas had such a program as your state for DUI and DWI drivers. It would give teens something to think about if they had to complete such a course before getting their license.

Aniviel
06-18-2007, 10:37 AM
I think this is just showing us that maybe an example is being made and she was the start of it (after all those other celebrities of course)
In my area, we had a stand of mother of 2 teenagers go to jail for 2 years for serving alcohol to minor at her teenage son's party and one boy left the party and got into an accident. She took everyone's keys away, but she stole them back. She wanted to monitor everything at her house and I almost agree with her, but 2 YEARS!! and they have appealed it and she is still serving the time.

so maybe it's just cracking down on everything.

pepeperfume
06-18-2007, 10:59 AM
Also, I have never heard of anyone serving time for driving on a suspended license, which was the charge for which she was arrested. .

I believe Paris Hilton was placed on probation a while back--and most rules of probation forbid a person to break the law--in anyway. Because the prisons are teeming with inmates and there are just not enough cells--(I live in a town that has 5 correctional Insititues within a 5 mile radias) many times a violation or two is over looked--the person is warned--but in Paris's Case--she ignores warnings, doesn't believe they apply to her--and when she does find herself in deep water, she blames HER mistakes on her childhood---

All in all, this woman is no different than anyone else who needs to grow up and take responsibility--if it's a person who gets behind the wheel after they know they are feeling their drinks, or the parent who gives the alochol to minors--they need to know that their are concidences for everything in life--and that they will pay.

The problem today is that many parents do not raise their children to know this concept--your actions have concidences--and so out they go, thinking they can do anything they can get away with--and then when they are caught and made to pay for what they did they cry foul.....

Once a person reaches adulthood--and in the US that is eighteen--they are said to be responsible for what they do--and by then a person should be able to detinguish between right and wrong--what will hurt someone and what will not. They will most likely be able to put on the blinders, as well, if its something they want or need to do--and they will have a way to justify it,

appeace
06-18-2007, 10:10 PM
Thats one point I am totally confused about, and thank the Lord, I never had to face with my kiddos, just how is a parent supposed to keep an "adult" from consuming alcohol?
I have known very loving parents who raised their kiddos the best they could and these usually very levelheaded kiddos be invited to a party, where everyone knew there would be drinking, the parents ask them not to go or, at least, not to drink, and those normally, well behaved 18 yr olds tell their parents they were no longer minors and would make that decision for themselves. Yet, the law and society, would hold the parents responsible for the behavior of 18yr olds.
In my humble opinion, if the law sees you as an adult at 18, then you should be able to consume alcohol as an adult. No, I dont drink, however, if one is considered a legal adult at 18 and can go to war in service of our country at 18 and can legally buy and consume tobacco at 18, then one should be "adult" enough to consume alcohol.
If the above is not true due to immaturity at 18 then the age limit on all the above needs be raised.

CaDonna
06-19-2007, 06:04 AM
It's my philosophy that one can blame ones parent for their childhood experiences but once you hit age 18 no matter who you are you have been exposed to the world enough to make your own decisions about what is right and wrong and what is acceptable behavior and what isn't. She is no longer a child. She admitted in a phone interview with Barbara Walters that being dumb was just an act.


I agree with you. I was raised and I raised my daughter that you had to think about the consequences of your actions......and live up to the responsibility of those actions. And not just at 18, but from primary years on up. By the time kids are 18, the foundation of their character has been well formed, not that we all can't learn something new, most of us just won't.

Sam
06-20-2007, 10:03 AM
I won't lie to any of you when I say that alcoholism runs in the family tree. And until last year I would drink on rare occassions but I never drove while drinking and I never allowed myself to drink so much that I didn't fully realize what I was doing. Infact if I drank two drinks I was ready to barf. What can I say? When it came to buying my drinks my dates got off cheap. But not to worry cause they had to make up for it when we went to dinner. Any way shortly after my daughter turned eighteen a neice saw her in a vehicle with some more teenagers pulled over in a parking lot. She asked the officers what was going on. (she knew them personally otherwise they would have sent her on her way) They told her there was alcohol in the car and a weapon under the seat. She asked if my daughter had been drinking or had anything to do with the weapon. They told her No and agreed to release her and the other girls to my neice providing she take them home. The boys who owned up to possessing the booze and the gun were taken to jail. When they got to my house and my neice told me what had happened I asked her why she interceded. Both she and my daughter looked at me dumbfounded and answered it was because she would have went to jail. To which my reply was, "So what's your point?" If you had let her go to jail she would learn not to do it again. My daughter could not believe I would let her stay in jail but I made it clear to both of my kids that if you do something to get yourself in there I won't be coming to get you out. It has been a great deterrent!! I am proud to say that neither of my kids have been in jail and they are 28 and 31 years old. I have been to the jail relating to some work I did but I've never been arrested for anything because those same rules were what my parents raised me by and after having seen the inside of one on a class field trip as a child I had no desire to go there.